
- Wort production method doesn't matter
- Barley doesn't know how it is being mashed
- Someone else's method may be better, or worse than yours
- The important thing is, that it is fun, and that it makes great beer.
- If you spent $1000 on wort production before fermentation temperature control, you missed the point!

What prompted this latest rant? A troll. A lecherous wart covered, dung eating troll with tusks and leathery skin. The kind of beast that should be driven out of the kingdom (summon Arthur and the knights)... the internet troll.
You know the type,the type who changed his on line name to "mstrbrewr" after his first Mr Beer kit. Since then he's managed to brew a couple more times, but he has read and committed to memory everything. His un welcome answers to questions are straight out of the books he's read. But not from his vast practical experience. He's full of knowledge and passion for this hobby, and he just had to share it all, now! Share it from his lofty position on the old couch in his mom's basement.

So here we go again. There isn't one right way to brew. Even commercial brewing is changing, many do not even have HLTs or Grants any more... opting instead for instant water heaters. If you open your mind you'd know that. My team and I are building a 1 BBL BIAB Recirculating Mash system. You are welcome to use it (for a nominal fee) when you need to brew big, Are you really going to say no, because it's BIAB?

The world changes, and we change with it. By the way arguing about wort production... kinda misses the point. I have correctly and precisely fermented average wort at perfect temperatures, and produced superior beer. Once again malt has no idea it is being mashed. Enzymes couldn't care less whether you biab, fly sparge, batch sparge, or no sparge. After 3 or 4 years, of brewing you're ready to have really helpful experienced advice. But not after 1 or two years of just reading and studying. Be kind. Be helpful, share your actual experience. And remember almost everyone has read, and owns the books you are quoting. If the real answer was in the book they would have found it already. So don't sit around with the books in your lap trying to answer questions. Believe me we've all read the books. Ask questions.
And finally, we don't need a new sage... but we could all use another beer loving friend.
Here is a comment I received on FB.
ReplyDeleteDavid, i read your Troll piece. Yes!
I tried out the homebrewing reddit for a couple weeks last year, as recommended one day by another site. Although I only have 2 years brewing, it was all grain and starters from the get go, so I my only extract exp is starters, leaving me no right to personally condemn it as inferior.
I read comment after comment as you describe in all areas of homebrew.
Then some guy wanted to argue with me about my repeated successful use of a stupid LM317 voltage regulator for controlling a stir plate.
My yeast didn't know how I controlled my stir plate, much less what a stir plate was, but somehow, starter after starter, I ended up with a vital, healthy pitch rate.
At that point, I deleted my reddit account and used the troll time saved to make another great lager with my LM317 stir plate, not "Ultra" low watt density EBIAB (that will scorch my wort) with homemade voile (that is somehow inferior to paint strainer bags, etc), PET carboy, and cheap stc1000 (that's junk it will only last a month) fermentation temp controller that has been rocking for 2 years now
Good article. Sadly, this is applicable to almost any interest\hobby group on the internet.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure. Although it doesn't seem to happen on my wood fired pizza groups. Unless someone makes a taco pizza... then all bets are off, pull up the drawbridge, lower the gates... it's on.
DeleteVery encouraging to us young brewers, I know I'm very happy just to brew anything successfully, much less worry about what others think about my system.
ReplyDeleteVery encouraging to us young brewers, I know I'm very happy just to brew anything successfully, much less worry about what others think about my system.
ReplyDeleteyoull get there, you might read my post on brewing priorities.
DeleteGreat post David! I'm curious to know if you would like to share future beer posts on the Pints Templars-Ohio Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/groups/1714044875506791/ ? The focus is mainly Ohio beers & brewing, but all of us are amateur (vast majority) or professional brewers. We would welcome the discussion. Thanks and Cheers!
ReplyDeleteI would be honored.
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ReplyDeleteHa, that was a great post... I have only done brewing for a year or so, biab styles with sparging over colander with sub-volume boils etc yet I have somehow managed to impress far more experienced brewers (traditional & otherwise) with the finished product... Good to have the reassurance from you & hear it was actually possible cause some would argue that... Keep on blogging thanks for your point of view(s)Cheers!
ReplyDeleteThanks I will.
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